E-log mandate likely coming soon: White House clears rule, publication nearing

| March 12, 2014

After more than seven months in waiting, the proposed rule mandating Electronic Logging Devices has cleared the White House’s Office of Management and Budget, likely paving the way for a Supplemental Notice of Proposed Rulemaking to be published by the end of the month.

The rule will, according to the DOT, has four basic parts: (1) Requiring drivers now required to keep records of duty status to use an Electronic Logging Device (aka Electronic Onboard Recorders), (2) Detailing performance and design standards of the devices, (3) Noting supporting documents drivers will still need to carry and (4) Addressing driver harassment concerns — the portion (or lack thereof) that derailed the last ELD rule.

The Department of Transportation incidentally released its monthly report updating progress of rulemakings March 11, too, projecting the rule to clear OMB March 28 and be published April 9.

That timeline, however, appears to have been pushed up several weeks.

More information on the rule will be available once it’s published in the Federal Register.

  • Pingback: Trucking News>> E-log mandate likely coming soon: White House clears rule, publication nearing – iTruckTV

  • Mike Smith

    E-LOG is just another violation of our constitutional rights by the government.

    Why are they, gov., spending so much time & money violating American CITIZENS RIGHTS, while allowing & legalizing criminal behavior; let ten’s of millions of foreigners, legal & illegal liens alike, to FLOOD into our country?

  • ado

    I am quite positive you come from an illegal ancestry tree yourself. This country was formed illegally on illegal land by illegal people.

    Why do you feel you should enjoy any of the benefits this country has to offer and other people should not.

    Who are you?

  • exitthematrix

    time to shut them down for real this time

  • spice

    Government giving away tax payers money to other countries which they have no business to involve them self in and Killing they own people with more rules to squeeze more money out of. Why This country don’t get honest and do the right thing. Leave the truckers alone.

  • Mike

    How will this effect fleets that are not always required to keep HOS log? Utility Service Vehicle fleets in particular.

  • exitthematrix

    ado, you must be an illegal or you wouldn’t have made that comment. The guy is right about what he said, They are after everything they can to destroy this country and this is just another nail in the coffin.

  • James Cox

    When did you become a lawyer? I’m native American, so don’t even go down that path dumba**.

  • ado

    You missed the point. The only legal people are Native Americans. Ask them if they want anyone here. You cant, why? They were murdered. I am not illegal. Im a realist. The truth is we are all illegal. And if anyone is running this country down hill like you say. Its the government, the leaders elected by the “legal citizens”.

    So why point the blame and overlook the truth? Perhaps because its the easiest thing to do? Ignorance?

    How much money and how many lives were lost in two wars over a 10 year period? Thats not the fault of illegal people.. Sorry..

  • throwthemout

    actually these laws are not being made by those “legally elected” but by un-elected bureaucrats that were appointed by obozo …….sorry

  • ado

    If you were native American you would agree with my comment. Simply because its the truth. You would not call me a dumba**

    Nice try acting N/A, but your intelligence proved otherwise.

  • ado

    I was referring to the Iraq war, but obozo is still in charge and was elected.. sorry.. nothing to do with illegal ppl so you have no point.

    Thanks

  • Mike Smith

    It’s obvious you have not studied history. We came here to the north, first in 1586 to attack the Spanish. Then we colonized & settled this land from sea to shining sea.

    You probably still don’t get it. We bought Florida from the Spainsh, then we took/bought the area north of the Rio from Mexico, who 20 yrs earlier took it from Spain, then called New Spain.

    Then we moved across the land to California. This was done by whites for whites. Not for anyone else. Now our gov, control/overthrown, the businesses & corporations whom use the cheap 3rd worlders to supply them with a new form of 3rd world slavery in our country.

    You should be able to get this, but I doubt it since you all ready made the comment you did. There were very few Indians here compared to the amount of land. It was not their land they were nomads. Nomads drift, have no roots, no ability to keep records.

    Save the foolish talk for people like you. It has no strength.

  • Mike Smith

    We, my forefathers, built this country from sea to shining sea that’s why. Who am I what difference does it make. What I say is true and correct.

  • ado

    Ignorance to the extreme. I bet you would not have ballz to say that to a Native American.

    Yea you just settled lands not occupied by record keepers.. Do you believe in god at all?

    Just because their civilization was not as advanced as the colonists does not mean they were not humans. It also does not mean they were legally chased off their lands. Just shut your mouth.

  • Mike Smith

    This is a true statement, ‘un-elected bureaucrats whom are not suppose to make laws. The elected are elected to make laws. But some don’t get it.

  • ado

    Ignorance can never teach, only preach what it cannot practice.

    Dont even think you are a historian. What you learned from your own ignorant teachers back in the day is as true as slavery was legal.

  • jojo

    The fact that I am a liar, a criminal and that I can’t tell time or draw a line requires that I must have one of these things as a constant reminder of how STUPID I and the rest of you are!!!
    If this isn’t HARASSMENT or an OUTRIGHT ASSAULT of my/our Dignity I don’t know what is.
    You Drivers keep on squabbling over insignificant BS cause your playing right into their HANDS!!!
    If this job payed what it should you wouldn’t be bothered by having to be LEGAL……..

  • Mike Smith

    What the heck are you talk’n about. And I told it to an Indian who was driving for me. He gets. He doesn’t like it but he knows that’s the way it is. They could never have done what we have here. They were living in the stone age, when people DIED at 18 to 30 years old. We changed all of that.

    You need to stop talk’n you sound like an uneducated lib minority trying to support a case for himself & his kind.

  • ado

    Proposing a law can be done by anyone.. Signing it and making it official is another thing..

    But either way Mike the historian, What does this have anything to do with Illegal people?

  • exitthematrix

    ok, then if I missed the point, then I apologize for my comments to you. I still agree with almost all of what Mike said about this Government and I agree with your comment about native American Indians, What white man did to them is a crying shame.
    This so-called Government is being pushed by powers within and out to destroy this nation. It’s only we the people that can stop it and we are running out of time QUICK!
    The truck drivers of this country are one group, that if united, could stop it.

  • Mike Smith

    My god you just keep babbling your silly stuff. Stuff you’ve probably picked up from your illegal alien school.

    Stop your goofy talk & get back to the subject.

  • Mike Smith

    Read my 1st comment. It’s CLEAR & to the point. Your whats call a troll, somebody who just makes silly arguments over & over to try and ‘step’ on the TRUTH. By the way you don’t have to be a historian to know what I’ve touched on. You only had to listen in school & do a little research. I’m through talking to you, TROLL.

  • exitthematrix

    ay men brother

  • ado

    Yea you changed all of that by mass murdering them all oges 0-30.. Good job.

    Next you enslaved people to do your dirty work for you. Robbed everyone. Forced people to mine never before mined land rich with all kinds of minerals and metals. Attracted attention of the rest of the world. Hired scientists (einstein/ nikola tesla to name a few), paid them to develop inventions/ ideas. Bought the space program from Yugoslavia.

    You live in a world which the foreigners built. The tides are turning and you are all worried sick about North Korea and Iran. “terrorists”..

    Who nuked countries?

    Get real

  • ado

    I cant agree with more. Its good to question the government. We have to. If we didnt we would be like North Korea. Poor people but thats what a government can do.

    Its all selp interest. Why did bush go to war with Iraq.. easy.. for the oil. Not to make the world a better place or weapons of mass destruction.. Thats BS fed to the people by the government. Much like any government in the world. Bush could have gone to war with african tribes who to this day kill people in the millions. But where is the interest? We have plenty of sant on our beaches.

    Im glad you see the big picture.

  • ado

    You just have nothing to say thats all

  • exitthematrix

    ado, if I missed the point, then I must apologize to you for my comment. I did agree with Mike for most of what he said until I read some of his later comments. He is right about a lot of what he said but people don’t realize there are forces within and out of the government that are trying to destroy this nation.
    We as the truck drivers are the one group (if united) could put a stop to it, When the trucks stop rolling, people WILL listen.

  • Mike Smith

    Enslaved people. The Spanish enslaved people that’s why the Caribbean Islands are full of negros, who have done nothing with the area since the Portuguese bought them, from negros who captured them, and sold the negros they negros caught, to the Portuguese. Obviously the school you went to, if you went to school failed to teach you this.

  • James Cox

    With all due respect, you are a dumbass because you are playing the victim. Grow the hell up. Nobody alive today is responsible for our families losing land, lives or identities. You’re no better than a black person blaming whites today for slavery, or for Mexicans losing California and Arizona to the USA.
    Lastly, I am a proud, CDIB card holder and member of the Choctaw Nation of Oklahoma. Instead of sitting on our asses feeling sorry for ourselves, be have built casinos, truck stops and hospitals, and are now the second wealthiest tribe in the US.
    This IS about government interference, by people who have never driven a truck in their lives. Sorry you got butt hurt. Grow a set and get a life.

  • ado

    “Your whats called a troll”

    You’re whats called a want-to-be historian that dropped out of high school because you were to high. The only thing you had in your life to fall back on are your red neck qualities of machines.. Stick to trucking. Not anything else.

  • ado

    Actually I did know this and I do know this. But let me remind your drugged up brain that it is irrelevant to illegal immigrants or the US govt.

  • jojo

    I Agree! Money, Drivers Wages is the real issue.
    This is the issue We need to be working on. A Drivers pay scale working off of the current and future federal minimum wage is an issue that most, if not all Drivers, and the Public would stand behind.
    Shut em down to accomplish something of significance that creates a safe environment on the Highways and that eliminates the unjust milage pay system.
    If rates go up to support the wages of the Co OTR Drivers then the rest of our wages should increase.

  • ado

    I just looked at your profile. In some comments you stated you like hot shot loads with vehicles of i think it was 10k gvw because you net $2500 a week and bypass all scales..

    You are also a corporation owner that employs 100+ employees. You have Canadion realations with several businesses. You are a veteran who served in the gulf war and you are a proud N/A..

    You seem to be quite a busy man after a Gulf war tour of the early 90′s. Since then you started a business employ lots of people and have all the time in the world to post comments all over this website..

    Again.. Nice try acting N/A

  • James Cox

    Your soul BURNS with jealousy. Must be because you are a victim of your own laziness and stupidity? I am everything you listed and more. I run a fleet
    of hot shots, which does allow me and my drivers to bypass the scales in most states. A typical workday from me would make you cry.
    You are more than welcome to check out my family history on the rolls of the Choctaw nation. My grandmother Johnnie Cox is an original roll member. My father, James W. Cox is an active elder in the tribe, and my cousin Delton Cox is a tribal councilman. If you spent half as much time getting your education, as you do stalking my profile, you might be able to make something of your life.

  • ado

    BURNS with jealousy..? OMG how did you know? Im dying to be just like you!!

    Actually I am 24 I own my own fleet and I have Prepass so my drivers get green lights most of the time and I have 5 owner ops running dedicated lanes for a good customer of mine and they more than triple your weekly rate. I get my 10% and I never make a single phone call. I have a dispatcher for the rest of the trucks And my compliance guy picks up my log books every friday. All I do is payroll. I have made more of my life in the 24 years of my life than you ever will. And dont take credit of your grandma grandpa cousin bla bla for nothing.

  • James Cox

    LMMFAO. You are a NOBODY. 5 owner ops? Impressive….NOT!
    Look kid, I learned one thing many years ago. He. who brags about having the biggest cock, hasn’t seen it in years. ALL you have is a burning desire to pull yourself up from poverty. You haven’t lived. You barely exist. Go serve our country, shed some blood for her, and then maybe, just maybe, you and I can start to be on the same level. The only pretend native America here is you kid. Now, I’m sure your mom wants her computer back, so go be a good boy and give it back to her. And get back to hitting the books so you can get you GED. Yes, I just called you a liar about being native American. Deal with it son.

  • Lazaro

    :)

  • Lazaro

    Put the WORDS OUT THERE WE NEED TO GET TOGETHER !!

  • Lazaro

    What would it take to do this?
    They wouldn’t get their plate served i’m sure.

  • ado

    All you are doing it talking like a tough guy.. Just like your first comment. Dumba**

    Im not N/A and I never said I was so idk what ur talking about.

    I have 5 owners that do dedicated for one customer. I have my own trucks as well and other owner ops.

    Talking about bragging.. You are the one that started bragging right from the get go about being a N/A.. I take it you have seen a lot of cock in your years since you brag.

    You contradicted yourself in every sentence you just uttered.

    Got your GED?

  • Lazaro

    This BS talk every one has make me think how many stupid people we have out here handling our business.Let the feds keep laughing the shit out of US,No wonder

  • James Cox

    Your tone, indicated you are native American. Regardless, you are still a nobody, and I’m inclined to believe an absolute total liar. Just my opinion, and you know what they say about opinions! If you truly are an O/O you know for a fact, that electronic logs are a complete and total waste of time, and yet another intrusion by this current socialist and his administration, to try and crush the little guy. I don’t need the muslim in chief dictating to me, how I run my corporations, nor my trucks.

  • Swede

    I’ve read all this crap and it seems to me that it’s just another way of screwing the owner operator with more costs. How can OOs compete with a large company who will probably pay about half that which others will pay. Maybe ha ha Obama will pay for this added expence. Prices for trucks and parts from end to end keep going up, do the rates follow, of course not. I have 2 1/2 million accident free miles, last ticket I got was back in 1983 from a county mounty doing 30 in rush hour traffic, for following to close. I was going to drive for another two years, but I’ve had it, I’m pulling the plug, all of these new tricks that the CSA has to play with, that being new laws seems like every year. Enough is enough, I can’t take this knife turning and turning in my back. They aren’t out here to help us out, there only out to see how many citations they can write and fines they can collect period!!!! I’ve heard, of course, about another shutdown that will never happen, to many individuals indifferent to what the problems really are. Way to many public employees in all U.S. jurisdictions doing all they can to collect fines and taxes to drive the truckers into the proverbial HOLE!!!!
    Pardon any gramatical errors as temper is flairing!!!

  • ado

    Sure my tone indicated im N/A. I just dont like losers bitching around. Mikes original comment he was bitching aroung for E-logs blaming illegals. Im from former Yugoslavia. War send me to Germany when i was 1-2 years old. My parents restarted their life there as illegals. Once the war ended we had a choice. Go back to a war torn country with no work of go elsewhere. We applied for citizenship and came to the states legally. My dad got into trucking when i was 12 and I opened the company a year after the old man had a stroke. I have to thank my dad for a lot and for what I have today. So Mike the historian sitting in his truck like a loser bitching at illegal immigrants because he has to do E-logs ticks me off. Especially knowing that he doesnt know he is illegal himself. Thats all. Work will get you somewhere. Bitching around will never get you out of that truck.

    As far as the muslim in office, religion has nothing to do with E-logs or anything. You are being as ignorant as the white man was back in the day and to this day. **Cough** ( Mike the illiterate historian)

    I am all for safety. However E-logs are not a solution to people running over hours. All they do is make life easier for the big companies. Welcome to corporate america.

    The govt could easily focus on programming trucks to stop if they are being driven over hours, or making a national freight registry so when companies (big or small) book freight its not Illegal or impossible to even legally do.. There are solutions. There are solutions to everything. But the point is not safety.. Thats just a pathetic cover up for strengthening already well established companies of the trucking industry. By eliminating the log book companies.

    What society needs are more educated people who see the big picture and understand peoples lives are more important than freight. Driving a cmv for 34 hours straight is ludicrous. That type of stuff needs to stop. The answer however is not E-logs or even HOS. But thats not even the point. The point is either way it will put the smaller fleets out of business, not the bigger ones.

    I really wonder if the bigger companies are pushing for these changes, Or possibly things happen under the table with the govt and these bigger corporations.. After all they elect the president. They fund the campaign and they get the tax breaks. Remember GM no tax but paid out bonuses to emloyees.. How does that happen that GM is above the law?

  • James Cox

    On the issue of government Intrusion, e-logs and federal mandates, we agree. I’m sorry if I came at you hard. I don’t like whiners either, and you started out sounding like that. I’m an ass at times, but I’m a no nonsense type of war vet who don’t take pity or shit from anyone, so that is that.
    We smaller operators are against the feds and the large companies, who are trying to drive us out of the business, so they can hire a bunch or idiots that will drive for .36 a mile. Best of luck to you and your business.

  • rydermike

    How do YOU figure that? Can you name anywhere on the globe that is still ruled and inhabitied by the same people of even a short 1000 years ago?

  • ado

    Germany England Spain France Egypt Turkey China Italy Russia Saudi Arabia Greece just to name a few

  • rydermike

    ALL of those have been invaded ,occupied and had the genetics changed

  • ado

    We are on the same page Corporations and all the crap that happens under the table is just a bunch of BS. Look what happened to Iceland. Banks corrupted the country. If this continues in the states we are all screwed. Just look back in the past 20 years. As the margin between wealthier people and the poor rose, the economy was falling. True in 90% of countries in the world

    I dont like to take crap from anyone either. I respect everyone and anyone untill Im disrespected. My family did not survive ethnic cleansing to come here and for me to take crap from anyone.

OverdriveOnline.com strives to maintain an open forum for reader opinions. Click here to read our comment policy.