E-log mandate on track as agency tries to tackle driver coercion

| September 17, 2013

eobrThe electronic logging device mandate (aka electronic onboard recorders) is still on track for the Nov. 18 publication the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration has been aiming at for sometime, as the White Houses’ Office of Management and Budget is expected to clear it for publication in early November. 

The OMB received the agency’s Supplemental Notice of Proposed Rulemaking Aug. 7, and FMCSA anticipates clearance of the rule Nov. 6. The agency would then publish the proposal Nov. 18 and accept public comment until Jan. 20. 

Moreover, the Office of Transportation Secretary received the agency’s Notice of Proposed Rulemaking related to driver coercion since Aug. 28 and is expected to get the rule to the OMB by Oct. 1. 

The MAP-21 highway funding authorization act from last year directs FMCSA to develop an electronic logging device mandate, but it also directs the agency to protect drivers from pressure to work in violation of safety regulations.

The agency also has started referring to the devices as electronic logging devices to reflect language used in the MAP-21 law, as opposed to the previous term, electronic onboard recorders. 

As part of its study on driver coercion, the agency says it plans to gather 1,039 responses from surveying and interviewing drivers and carriers, including paying 510 drivers at truck stops $10 each for completing a survey. The Information Collection Request will last 15 months and has a $460,000 budget. 

The coercion plan is expected to clear the OMB Dec. 31, allowing FMCSA to publish a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking by Jan. 9 and take public feedback through March 31. 

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  • Guest

    Calif is passing a new law too right now! All illegal aliens can have a Drivers License! Xlnt idea for safety…since more American are killed each year by DRUNK ILLEGAL ALIENS..
    (5,000 per year) than are Killed in Truck Accidents……hmmmm..all about saving lives?????
    We NEED illegal aliens driving cars and trucks???? Is it really a PRIORITY???? Drunk illegal aliens killing Americans?? Does THAT sound Safe??? Anne Ferro our Trucking Godess says we are aiming for ZERO DEATHS?

  • Jim Kennedy

    So 510 drivers will have supplemental incomes of $10 each for filling out

  • Joseph J Deskiewicz

    It has nothing to do with safety. The Government wants to make more money off our backs.

  • Guest

    Trucker shutdown is planned Oct 11-13….get home and stay home…unless you are joining the convoy at Washington DC.
    Congress will start to worry when 1 million truckers dont haul freight….the demands at the rally will be helpful but when they see we have the power to effect the economy with No Freight Service….they will start to weeping……

  • Rey Moreno

    Is this in the works or is the oct 11-33 dates you cooked up?

  • joey

    everyone needs to come to together and fight this all it is a money issue and another way for them to control us without us America would be at a stand still.

  • Shawn McConniel

    I am with ya on it but gotta be careful against the law to “shutdown” and convoy. We need to show the government we are in charge not them.

  • Sed

    That’s something you sould have done 10 to 15 years ago.you know when we where trying to get you to.

  • Rockwell

    Hope this is real but doubt it. First Ive heard anything, If it turns out real though, you can bet all my rigs will be sitting! All my guys are paid by the hour, ill even make these three days a paid holiday for em!

  • Linette Christensen

    This has been talked about on the internet, facebook etc.. for a few weeks and yes, we are all in. Our truck will be shut down. We are not slaves to this government. We can park our trucks anytime we want to. We are planning to take time off those three days!

  • Linette Christensen

    We need to take our lives and our lively hoods back! The ever increasing regulations, taxes and rising insurance costs are drowning our industry. We need it to stop. So we need to stop moving freight!

  • Rey Moreno

    Excellent. I just saw the FB page. almost 15,000 likes. Remember to not buy anything from a corporation on those days either. Thanks for the heads up.

  • Raveman

    How about a little more info on this shutdown. I’m all for it if it is real, but this is the first I’ve heard of it anywhere, so that does not give a lot of time to get the word out. Also, one guy a couple of years ago had a great idea. Washington DC, 100 mile radius, nothing goes in and nothing comes out. That alone can keep truckers working while still getting Washington’s attention

  • Reality

    The fact of the matter is that tired driving kills innocent people. Mis-reporting robs money that should be going to repair the roads and bridges you all depend on to make your living. Trucker shutdowns create opportunities for new trucking companies that will haul the freight. Don’t think for one minute that taking your ball and going home will make you win the race.

  • Guest

    What exactly is this strike for? I read a couple articles about this. They say it’s to call attention to 25 member killed from team 6, Obama engaging in treasonous actions, raising gas prices gas prices, among other reasons. Some are describing it as a “general strike”. I’m not sure what people expect the government to do in response to them going on a general strike. Not trying to mock the idea, I just don’t understand what exact goal we trying to accomplish through this strike.

  • whatsrealygoingon

    THE FMCSA IS RAN BY EDUCATED MORONS WHO DONT HAVE A CLUE ABOUT SAFETY ISSUES IN THE TRUCKING INDUSTRY. IF THEY DID THEY WOULD GIVE EVERY PERSON WHO WANTS OR HAS A CLASS C LICENSE A PSYCHOLOGICAL EXAMINATION AND A BRAIN EXAMINATION BECAUSE THEY ARE 99 PERCENT THE CAUSE FOR THE TRUCKING INDUSTRIES SAFETY CONCERNS. THE INTERSTATES WERE BUILT FOR THE MOVEMENT OF COMMERCE NOT FOR ORGANIZATIONS AGAINST TRUCKERS…..DUH!!!!
    THE FMCSA ….JUST ANOTHER WASTE OF TAXPAYER MONEY TO TRY AND FIX SOMETHING THAT IS NOT BROKEN. FMCSA SHOULD MAKE THE SHIPPERS AND RECIEVERS HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE LONG AND WASTED TIME TO GET LOADED AND UNLOADED WHICH CAUSES MAJOR LOSS OF MONEY TO THE TRUCKING INDUSTRY. FMCSA SHOULD MAKE GETTING A CDL A HARDER TO OBTAIN BY MAKING A MANDATORY 6 MONTHS TRAINING WITH ANOTHER DRIVER BEFORE CUTTING LOOSE.
    ABOUT THE ELECTRONIC LOGS….ALL YOU COMPUTER PROGRAMERS START FIGURING OUT A WAY TO CHEAT…CHEAT CHEAT THE ELOGS!!!!!!
    IF I HAVE TO PUT AN ELOG IN MY TRUCK I GAURANTEE YOU IT WILL NEVER WORK AND WHAT HAPPENS WHEN IT BREAKS..WHO PAYS AND HOW MANY DAYS OR RUNS DO YOU LOOSE BEFORE IT GETS FIXED..OH YEA AND WHO IS GOING TO PAY FOR ALL THIS EQUIPMENT AND MAN POWER IN AN ALL READY CRIPPLED ECONOMY ……….
    FMCSA WHAT A BUNCH OF EDUCATED MORONS!!!!

  • Whatisrealygoingon

    You call your self reality …you should call yourself fantasy world!!!! What the hell does e-logs and the excessive control of our govrnment against truckers have to do with road repair???? You must be one of the misfortunite minds who lack common sense .
    You wouldn’t happen to work for the fmcsa ??

  • Ken Nilsen

    So in other words you will be shutting off the electricity to your house? After all it comes from a corporation.

  • jr1074

    What good does shutting down on the weekend do. Most companies don’t work Saturday and Sunday.

  • Ken Nilsen

    That is what is so silly about this. there are at least 3 days a year when over 70% of trucks are shutdown and it affects nothing. My vacation is already planned for that week and it will not affect me in any way.

  • Ken Nilsen

    What is the name of your trucking company? I want to come work there next week so that I can take a paid vacation during that time.

  • guest

    Exactly what I was thinking. It only works if it is in the middle of the week. I think they choose the weekend so very few lose any money. My hubby has off most weekends and his truck sits, So what good is that going to do.

  • Barney

    It would help if the idiots at the Dot and FMCSA had a f$%^&*! clue what safety is actually about.

  • pilgrim

    Ignorance breeds contempt!!

    Those who protest “electronic logging device” either don’t know how they work or haven’t bothered to find out.

    Back in 1980 the UK following the European unions rules introduced what is called the Tachograph. At the same time they reduced driving hours to 8 hrs per day with two 12 1/2 hr splits per week. a 12 1/2 split did not increase driving hrs it just spread them out over the time period.
    Anyways the Tachograph is a carbon impregnated disc that slides into the back of the speedometer and must remain there for 24 hours. by using a toggle switch to move a sylas need to the correct location on the disc. It records sleep time, rest time, driving time and working but non driving time. In the case of an accident or other questionable recording it could be broken down under analysis to even see what gear you were it at the time, or whether you were in the wrong mode of operation.
    There were lots of verbal protests claiming its like having a cop and your boss sitting next to you. You also had to carry the previous 7 days with you and could be ticketed for any offense recorded within that time frame.
    ( I now understand Driving hours have been increased to 10but I’m sure anyone can verify that)

    Research later proved the complaints prior to inception were groundless. Proof showed Accidents were reduced, Drivers were less fatigued and Jobs were created and rates increased.

    It must be also said that CPM was never a problem as Drivers were always paid hourly or by the job including loading, unloading and returning empty.

    Calling for a strike against the device is ridiculous and will achieve nothing positive. In fact it will probably do the opposite of what you are trying to do, especially as the general public will be against you.

    If you want a constructive change go after an hourly wage and full benefits. It will be a hard battle but in the end it will be worth it.

    Now how about cleaning the drivers image, at the moment any truck stop has trucks pull in and the driver are dirty smell and look like hobo’s and the homeless.

  • Rey Moreno

    Ahh, actually my power is supplied by the local energy Co-Op. If your unfamiliar with how a Co-Op works then look it up. But for you, turning off you power is probaby a good idea. Disrespectful Jerk-off’s like you should’nt have access to social media. Nor should you breed either, so go F yourself.

  • USMC 69-75

    True LC,
    But they have been getting away with so much B/S over the years, because we haven’t stood up to them. Not since Billy boy took our radar detectors out of our trucks! Now they feel we are the sheeple they want, and control us thusly! We needed to shut down years ago, but this will be interesting to see what happens? I bet a dollar to a dog biscuit, there will be a lot of trucks rolling, and a few sitting home!
    I’ll be home watching, and grieving and praying for our industry, and nation!

  • Guest

    Plenty articles Google Trucker Shutdown Oct 11-13….if we get 1 Million truckers to stay Home….we will get the attention…because next Time it could be 1 Week…there will be guys going to Washington..and its a Battle..supposrt them and Yourself by Not Driving…this is a good chance to get started representing Truckers in Large Numbers.

  • Guest

    Now THAT is Funny! I Approve.

  • g

    Yep he is a dispatcher and Shill for the Rich..hoping he can LEACH his way to success…lol

  • Guest

    Its on Google..enter Trucker Shutdown Oct 11 2013 and there is a Facebook with 15,000 approvals..this was just announced 3 days ago….

  • Linette Christensen

    I know many of us are struggling just to get by and 3 days off work will be a big hit to our income.But we need to do something. If not now, when? If not us, then who?

  • Guest

    10-4 it is now or never….this will be a weekend shut down and a Beginning….if they want to cause More trouble we can just make it an even WEEK…this is an important beginning……

  • Linette Christensen

    October 11,12 and 13th. They are wanting a 1 Million Truck to Washington Protest. We are not licensed east of Texas as are a lot of trucks. Those of us who can not go there, are shutting down for all three days. The more that join, the more attention we will get!

  • Linette Christensen

    You forgot we pay for the roads and bridges. We pay a far greater percentage of the fuel taxes. Which as you know are supposed to pay for roads.

  • Linette Christensen

    This would all be fine and dandy, if we could completely over haul the entire system. Customers keep you far to long at loading and unloading sites. If they do pay detention time it is not even close to what it should be. Brokers also add to the costs. Most take more the 30% of the haul pay. The way the rules, regulations and laws are now the entire burden of this industry falls on the trucking company and drivers. No one else is responsible. Even if you are in a wreck and it is the fault of the other vehicles involved, you are the one punished with a significant raise in you safety rating! If the customer over loads you, it is your fault. If you acquire extra snow on your rig in a storm, you are over weight at the port, you are responsible and can be fined at the whim of the officer.

  • yoggib

    yea thats rite we need to do it thru the wk

  • Lynn

    The one thing e-logs or any logging system cannot do is make a driver sleep. Until they can actually make you sleep then all their rules aren’t worth a whit. I’m saying truckers do need to be responsible and only drive when they are properly rested, and no amount of rules and regulations can cause you to be rested.

  • jacatey

    Imma gonna not drive, cause it will make me no money and my family can eat wish sandwiches. The barcode and transmitter inplanted in my head serve as my new recording devices. Sell your trucks and work at McDonalds for 25 an hour.

  • Ken Nilsen

    I am so sorry people have to be exposed to rude language. You only embarrass yourself. It is unfortunate you are not capable of civilized debate.

    Now to your point, I am well educated on electric cooperatives. There are in fact different types. They range from service to distribution to generation. The point of my comment, which you failed to understand, is the ridiculous idea that you can do without corporations. If you eat on that day your food likely was delivered to the store by a corporation. When you drive to the store, you are driving something built by a corporation. Next time actually think before you post.

  • Sharon

    We will shut down! We are sick of it! California is putting us out of business due to forcing us to put a 18,000.00 to 20,000,00 muffler on!

  • Rey Moreno

    Well as I recall, it was YOU that crowbared yourself into my conversation. So allow me to retart on your superficial and completely unintelligent answer. OK, Most Corporations today ship based on an accounting theory use to minimize Cost, Liability, asset protection, and most noteably “Good Position” on a Balance Sheet. The Function of this Theory is called “Just-In-Time” Shipping. Many of the facits within the calculation of stock price are directly related to the position of one’s balance sheet. As position improves, so does stock price. Over buying, selling, or the lack of sales can disrupt the delicate balance of JIT shipping, and accordingly have impact on stock price. As the ATA recently submited a formal document to the FMCSA and Congress, the ATA pointed out the harmfull affects and disasterous possibilities to the shipping industry by a disruption of trucking services. This point in fact was ignored by Congress and FMCSA, and subsequent rulemaking showed a complete lack of thought and bolstered their disregard to just how much burden would be placed on the small Carrier and the many other effects on the industry. THEREFORE, the understanding behind my point to not buy from a corporation in very short explaination, is to temporarily disrupt the buying power of Big Business and send a message to the people who have paid-off the leaders in Washington that WE MEAN BUSINESS AND WE WANT CHANGE NOW! Many of the answers lye well below the surface within our complex society. The correct answer isnt always the clear choice on the surface as you chose to believe.

  • Rey Moreno

    Let me also point out, I did not say to stop buying Forever, merely for the three day period. Corporate policy has a very direct impact on the laws created by our Law oakers. We want to bypass the political falderol and go right to the source of our frustration.

  • Cole

    LC
    I can observe four different loading docks at one of the local Malls and wonder how the drivers account for the many hours they spend waiting for the store’s staff to unload the trailer. Most times it takes 6 to 8 hours for the trailer (mostly 53 footers) to be unloaded while the driver waits. Several times the drivers have offered to help unload but they have been refused. Could not a system be put in place to possibly have an empty trailer ready to be hooked up to? OR, is this observation (of 4 different stores) just an exception to how the loading/unloading system works for most truckers?

  • guest

    Crazy Carb Laws…..The NEW law says every illegal alien on earth can Drive Truck in Calif..they will issue a Calif License…ASAP.
    Just what we need…..thanks Gov Brown Nose.

  • Supply&Demand

    You guys shut down on Oct 11 thru 13 and I will shut down on Oct 15. the day after Columbus Day.I figure if everyone shuts down on Oct 11 thru 13 there will be a shortage of avail trucks so shippers will be paying top dollar to cover their loads. And when everyone comes back out on Tuesday looking for loads I will shut down when the rates drop.

  • g

    That was YESTERDAY…now its 28,000 likes and Growing Fast!! Lots of people getting on board for SHUT THIS BAD PUPPY DOWN DAY!!!!
    2 Million hits on Facebook sight already and its 3 days OLD!!

  • g

    That Nails it…..Shut down or be a slave…..Come to DC and Washington will take notice. Do it Now…..not many chances left….

  • Rey Moreno

    Holy Smokes! Thanks for the update G.

  • Rey Moreno

    There will be no Monday Freight Freight Delivered if we dont pick on Friday. Think of all the freight loads picking on a Friday? The load boards will blow up on Monday!

  • Rey Moreno

    The brokers and Savvy Shippers know truckers want to get home on Friday’s. Friday freight is notoriously cheeper than Monday Freight. It will Piss off so many Brokers and shippers too! This is the beauty of doing it over the weekend. Less money Is Lost by Drivers and Tons of Money will be lost by Shippers and Brokers. You Know, the one’s who rip us off on a daily basis.