Panel: Paying drivers by hour would be ‘suicide,’ driver pay raise looming

| October 24, 2013

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  • jojo

    Co. drivers minimum base wage. 0 to 100,000 miles @ $7.25hr x 24hrs x 300days = $52,200 a year. 100,000 to 200,000 miles @ $7.75hr x 24hrs x 300days = $55,800 a year. 300,000 plus @ $8.25hr x 24hrs x 300days = $59,400 a year. Double time supervising loading. Triple time handling freight. More to discuss/consider.

  • james

    YES that maybe true but without drivers the companies have no money to pay the dues and then they go out of business.

  • james

    11.50 Is way too low if you take a 60mph and times that by .45cpm it would come out to $27/ph

  • james

    Here is an idea why don’t companies pay drive just as they pay for maintenance on the truck the driver drives. Pay them what TA/Petro charges or any other OTR mechanic gets paid 95 base pay trip charge, hourly wage of $27/hr.breakdown anytime we are in the shop and delayed for p/u or delivery b/c we as driver have to know what going on with the truck right and yet most drivers have the slightest idea how to do a Pre trip even after training for weeks. but with the right training they will know and make the companies force to pay for the training the drivers proper maintenance.

  • james

    If the trucking companies would charge the shipper a cancelation fee of 125-150. and pay that to driver then a lot more shipping companies would be careful on when they need the load p/u and then not cancel at the last minute . after all if your late they charge us a late $120-150 fee even if we got loaded delayed
    they blame us for the delay the delivery.

  • CaptainUSA

    I been towing 18 wheelers last 7 years my friend and Boss repairs them except for ANY computer work. We did it on a 1993 KW I owned and other company units.stuff but I dont even want to try they build the new ones junky on purpose The quality peaked in 98/99The big companies get them super cheap some new ones ALL need water pumps every 50,000 miles. Sad . compared to a regular guy. They dont even care if they driver speaks english anymore Trucking for a lil company or if you got deeper pockets than me but I sould my last Truck 3 years ago. Now I just tow them and would love to quit doing that.

  • CaptainUSA

    Excellent idea and some little companies do it. I wish I had keep notes.

  • http://joker-jim.blogspot.com/ Joker Jim

    Why do you think industry is clamoring for immigration reform? The immigrant that worked for $5 a day in their native land will love the opportunity to work for $5 hour plus government assistance here. And, they’ll all vote for which ever political party gets them in the gate!

  • Jkc

    You can’t legally shut down read your CDl the only one who opposed this back in 85 was unions and oo mag we all fall under the Feds u strike shut down slow down you could go to jail.read your lae

  • http://www.truckertwotimes.com/ Truckertwotimes

    Yes Sir, and the only way a driver makes more is by burning less fuel i.e. the one’s that have to sweat in the heat because the truck doesn’t have an APU or if the truck runs 62 MPH and most don’t mind unless 98% of them ran 61.9 MPH or 61.8 MPH and maybe theirs ran 62.1 or 62.3 or several other numbers that would put a little extra curve on one’s day, but the savings would be in favor of the carriers side, while the driver as usual took up the slack, unless they can tighten down on the hours of service “REAL GOOD” lol……..

  • http://www.truckertwotimes.com/ Truckertwotimes

    One certainly can’t argue with this.

  • http://www.truckertwotimes.com/ Truckertwotimes

    Two (2) maybe even 3 or 4 to a truck would be ideal for the wHEELs’

  • http://www.truckertwotimes.com/ Truckertwotimes

    That’s an interesting note, (good) females are definitely in very short supply

  • http://www.truckertwotimes.com/ Truckertwotimes

    Yes Mam, purely human trafficking, odd that the unemployment rate is what it is but I’ve talked to people that would not drive a truck period

  • http://www.truckertwotimes.com/ Truckertwotimes

    $200.00 a day would be more than fair considering what the job demands, and you could divide any number of “MAXIMUM” hours into that, to call the hourly rate whatever fit the write offs.

  • http://www.truckertwotimes.com/ Truckertwotimes

    btw that would have to include those that got off on the weekends, the home on Saturday and gone on Sunday kind as well.

  • http://www.truckertwotimes.com/ Truckertwotimes

    I’d have to take a wild guess and say this is in the northeast…. lol

  • http://www.truckertwotimes.com/ Truckertwotimes

    That reminds me of something that happened to me just above LA a day cab driver merged across both solid lines in order to jump on the freeway in front of me because I had enough space between the vehicle in front of me that left an almost “Left Turn Merge” It’s a jungle out there by now I imagine, oh, and may as well mention the local day cab coming out of San Fran area where the right lane ends and signs tell people for a good distance, this ole boy hammered down passing a bunch on the right lane that was ending and even traveled for a ways on the breakdown lane after he got up beside me, but all was good for him because his terminal was on the left side of the road just a few more miles away….. Cool Dwiver………

  • http://www.truckertwotimes.com/ Truckertwotimes

    yeah, that give em two hours was a driver used competition rate from the get go

  • http://www.truckertwotimes.com/ Truckertwotimes

    We need someone with this kind of logic running the whole Country, we could make the cuts in the desk jockeys

  • http://www.truckertwotimes.com/ Truckertwotimes

    They can do this legally by crossing state lines, it would be 6 in one hand and a half dozen in the other

  • http://www.truckertwotimes.com/ Truckertwotimes

    Well, you’re right to a degree, but the white collar and tie “boys” that don’t work in the trucking business are the real scam artists

  • http://www.truckertwotimes.com/ Truckertwotimes

    that makes sense to me

  • http://www.truckertwotimes.com/ Truckertwotimes

    The driver is the money maker for corpOrate

  • http://www.truckertwotimes.com/ Truckertwotimes

    that’s wild, them Gordons have APU’s don’t they?

  • http://www.truckertwotimes.com/ Truckertwotimes

    Benji is their god

  • http://www.truckertwotimes.com/ Truckertwotimes

    I sure didn’t know about that one

  • http://www.truckertwotimes.com/ Truckertwotimes

    Wowee Mauee

  • http://www.truckertwotimes.com/ Truckertwotimes

    I think those that considered Brother Reagan a hero invented the “Deregulation” which I’ve had some inside company guys tell me that was a good thang???? I don’t believe that, do you?

  • http://www.truckertwotimes.com/ Truckertwotimes

    Underline and quote ” Most of the decision makers, wouldn’t ever be able to handle the lifestyle of a truck driver.,, Thinking back on it, I don’t see how I did it in places

  • http://www.truckertwotimes.com/ Truckertwotimes

    that will be a good thang, everything is going toward technology or so it’s called

  • http://www.truckertwotimes.com/ Truckertwotimes

    That’s some heavy figuring, I used to work a little over a hundred hours a week on the long haul side of trucking, I remember clearing $1300.00 dollars one week, got to home terminal on a Friday had a random to take, didn’t think and went by the bank first had to empty pockets in Dr. Office and was missing a bill when I got back out to my truck, never learned anything about it, just disappeared, but never took wallet in again after that…

  • http://www.truckertwotimes.com/ Truckertwotimes

    Yes Sir, that’s pretty wild and hard to figure, I used to always be on my way to Shitcago outta Morristown in the middle of the week passing the Truck Stop on the right side of 65 just below Indy and look over at all the sleeping beauties and wonder how they done that and why I never could….

  • donnisl

    i make over $70,000 a year,home every day,and weekends off. working less than 50 hours a week. every truck driver should make around this…i’ve only been driving 33 years,so if an old worn out trucker like me can do this,anybody can…

  • jojo

    Edited my mistake.
    Consider this formula; base hourly rate + equipment pay + hazmat – MVR.
    300,000 mile + Driver at $8.75 + .25 for tanker + .25 for hazmat – .25 for 1 moving violation = $9.25 an hour.
    Driver will regain .25cph when moving violation falls off MVR.
    $9.25 an hour X 24 hrs = $222.00 a day.
    Tie Co OTR Drivers wages to the minimum wage standard and those who understand hours AT work will then understand that the Co OTR Driver does not make minimum wage in most cases.
    3,000 miles X .406 cpm = $1,218.00
    $7.25 an hr X 168 hrs = $1,218.00
    Time has value. A Co OTR Driver earns 1day off for each week out and because they don’t get paid for their time spent at work doing as they are told, many can’t afford to take time off.
    Cheap freight relies on cheap labor! There are drivers out there making .25 cpm and we complain about cheap freight instead of designing a pay system that fairly compensates all Co OTR Drivers.
    Wages go up, freight rates go up!

  • Debieve

    Well you should dream big or not at all,,i been on both sides of the trucking fence as O/Op also and I banked being on my own..Now its so regulated your lucky if you make half that…if your working your full 14 then why not earn that?

  • Debieve

    I agree my brother trucker, but alas they have no balls and plenty of mouth,,so this is why nothing ever gets done..while i shut down every strike plenty others didn’t..they want someone else to fight for there God given rights as a human being and God forbid they should grow them om their own..it’s always same ole story,,,mouth overload..