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No it got to be added to the comformation. And Billed out. Just like a lumper fee. Look there are some places out here that charge late fee of over$300/$400. Do you pay that? Ok just a add on if they charge us that ok you charge the detession $67.00 so you can afford to pay a driver out of that if you can’t closes your doors .
Watch US food serves they had you for 7/8 hours f*** your whole day up.
What really gets the ass is when you go to bed there on lot. Next morning brokers calls your still there. LOL you waste my day ok drank coke.
Not when big brother want more tax money!
I have done just that. If they hold me up I run out of time. I go to bed.
Yes every driver should be paid enough free work on the back of Otr drivers all that time from home extra expense living on road
CARRIERS AND DRIVERS DO THE JOB WE ARE ALL SCHEDULED BY APPT TAKE WAL-MART FOR EXAMPLE YOU HAVE AN HOUR BEFORE AND HOUR AFTER IF YOU ARE NOT THERE YOU DO NOT GET UNLOADED. THE SAME SHOULD APPLY IF YOU ARE ON TIME FOR YOUR APPT THE RECIEVER SHOULD PAY FOR DETENTENTION TIME NOT ONLY FOR THE DRIVER BUT FOR HOLDING UP THE TRUCK. IF TRUCKS DON’T MOVE THEY MAKE NO MONEY.. BOTH SHOULD BE PAID BY THE RECIEVER MAYBIE THAN THEY’D GET IT RIGHT AND STOP USING TRUCKS FOR COLD STORAGE..THEY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF BOTH..
We negotiate everything (rate per mile, FSC, detention, etc) and get it in writing before we sign up for a load and have never had a problem. So no I don’t want the government involved in my business.
I agree Yvonne. There are too many regulations all ready. I work for a truly small company (2 company drivers, 2 o/o) and we get detention of at least 30.00/hr after 2 hrs. That is WAY better than minimum wage! If there are places that have long wait times, we don’t go there. You make more money deadheading more but MOVING than sitting at a dock waiting. If trucks refuse to pick up/deliver the loads, the shippers/receivers will have to fix their issues. This is also one place that we can make the rules work FOR us. There is a 14 hr clock. If you can’t deliver the product on time because you were held up at a dock, it will cause problems for the receiver too. Too much of not getting your product JIT and these companies will realize there are laws we have to abide by, therefore THEY have to abide by! I say cultivate relationships with good brokers/customers and factor wait times into your rates. Stay away from those places that are causing the problems!
this question should be reworded: DO YOU SUPPORT DETENTION PAY EQUAL TO THE HOURLY MIMINUM WAGE: MARK ALL THAT APPLY:
( ) BY THE SHIPPER IF HELD MORE THAT 2 HOURS
( ) BY THE RECEIVER IF HELD MORE THAT 2 HOURS
( ) BY THE CARRIER’S COMPANY
THEN YOU WOULD GET THE CORRECT ANSWER YOU ARE SEEKING.. THE WAY THE QUESTION IS WRITTEN IS SKEWED
1. Since bank crash 2008, one of ‘Austerity Measures’ that helps our customers & us in the long run… was to go from 2 to 4 hours before we begin charging Detention. The vast majority of our customers don’t appear to abuse this & enjoy our competitive rates & reliable expedited safe/legal transport of their goods.
2. Regarding that Pepsi long stop.
Was that LA area? Unfortunately, very large companies can allegedly hav subsets to the set that fail to operate fairly & completely within proper business ethics &/or completely safe/legal irrespective of whether your truck is union or nonUnion or whether u r of predominant demographic that fork & DC Drivers are. And, if female driver, your truck likely 2 be finished loading dead last anyway if solo.
Was in bunk one time & came flying out CAMCORDER ‘ON’ aftr a team truck that was docking banged into my docked rig at ///////. Caught drivers on camera who tried to deny damage they’d just done to brand new truck. And since I camcorder CTPAT & PreTrip especially in high crime risk, high traffic locations, I cld back up my story to police easily. BUT DC RCVG SHIFT Mgr fella insisted on getting me away from my rig & wasted bunch of my time in his office area spaces, which he didn’t also do with male perpetrator drivers. When there are several thousand keys (including former mechanics & shops who lose keys & used trade/sales trucks), a driver in LA or anywhere really doesn’t prefer to walk away from basically an unlocked truck. And, as regards CTPAT, am not a Mechanic; so, why expect me to be ‘canary in hole’. At least add door, shock, motion & hood sensors.
So, be suspicious of delays that get you out of your rig. And if you are in URBAN or COUNTRY setting, do good CTPAT when u return from Ship/Rcv Ofc if Driver required to ‘Observe’ &/or COUNT’ Product, & do it again if at customer over 2Hrs & exit truck to go to bathroom. ? And wouldn’t a security system make this safer easier for driver CTPAT compliance?
We’re heading towards another major summer holiday for US. STAY ALERT! Be careful on road & aware folks/parents with children driving distractedly. Do what helps you cool down in heat extremes. Keep extra cold food, cold drinks &keep emergency case of water stashed under bunk.
Paramount drivers stay hydrated so that when you hit the road after that DELAY you are capable & ready to make right safe/legal decisions while driving. Be listening to favorite program/music that helps focus, recall & alert checking of mirrors & traffic around you.
God bless & keep you all safe & returning sound to the one that you love. *;)
It is not really that simple because even though yes you can simply stop doing business with them, if they are one of your larger customers you may be out more money by not doing business with them. So, by reading this you might think well then your business is fine because you are making more money than you are losing? But that is not true as well because then that puts you late to your other customers which is more money lost for the rest of the week.
This is just getting ridiculous! My time is worth money! My days in LTL had me at many a food house. While I was paid an hourly rate and didn’t become too worked up for sitting, I would talk to many OTR drivers. If they were late, the food house would bill their company or them if O/O. They would just sit out there for hours. Once they were “allowed” to back into a dock, they had the pleasure of unloading their own trucks,sorting and segregating and in most cases not even be treated very well by the food house itself! When did this happen? When did the driver become the dock worker for the company consignee?
While I’m only in my early forties age wise, one constant I’ve heard from many “old timers” is that “I made more money in the 70’s than I do now”. Why would anyone sign up for this type of life style? This is why the LTL’s don’t have nearly the problem with turnover or recruitment. They bill for sorting and segregating,if you don’t unload in a timely manner they pull you out and the consignee gets hit with a redelivery charge. Unfortunately this is not the case with TL and O/O drivers. Time is money!
It should not be the carrier’s responsibility to pay, it should be the outfit holding up the driver. As far as how to accomplish that? Your guess is as good as mine. The fight to do this through legislation would take years, I can see the lobbyists and lawyers lining up right now.
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