E-log mandate publication date pushed back again, now expected April 9

| March 11, 2014

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UPDATE: The Electronic Logging Device mandate cleared the White Houses’s Office of Management and Budget March 11, contrary to what the DOT reported in its monthly rulemakings update. Click here to see an updated story on the progress of the ELD mandate, which likely is now slated for publication within the next few weeks.

A proposed rule mandating Electronic Logging Devices (aka Electronic Onboard Recorders) is now projected to be published April 9, according to a monthly report from the Department of Transportation, who has been pushing back the projected publication date for the rule since mid-November. 

The mandate will require all drivers now subject to keeping records of duty status to use a logging device. The Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration submitted the rule to the White House’s Office of Management and Budget Aug. 7, with a projected publication date of Nov. 18. 

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Onboard recorder mandate set to miss another publication date

The long-expected re-release of the DOT rule mandating the use of Electronic Logging Devices (also known as Electronic Onboard Recorders) seems poised to once again ...

However, in each of the last five months, the DOT’s updated projected publication date has come and gone, and the rule still hasn’t cleared OMB. 

The DOT’s latest report, issued March 11, projects the rule to clear OMB March 28. Following the projected April 9 publication of the Supplemental Notice of Proposed Rulemaking, the proposal would allow for 60 days of public comment, ending June 9. 

The agency then would take any comments into consideration before publishing a final rule. 


The DOT also still projects its driver coercion rule to be published April 23, The rule would create a requirement that the agency “consider whether coercion of drivers” by shippers, receivers, carriers or brokers “is a concern when developing a rule.” It too would have a 60-day comment period ending June 25. 

FMCSA’s Carrier Safety Fitness Determination rule proposal is, per the report, also set to still be published Aug. 4. The rule would change the agency’s data gathering process some in regards to how it calculates a carrier’s Safety Fitness Determination score. After the rule’s passage, the agency will use data from roadside inspections, crashes, investigations and violation history, nearly an identical data set used in calculating a Safety Measurement Scores in the agency’s Compliance, Safety, Accountability program.

  • g

    See they are so stupid they cant even figure what they are doing. They have to kiss all the right BUTTS before implementing this crap. Checking to see if all the BIG MONEY interests who put them in OFFICE are ready for this to become Law. Nothing to do with SAFETY..all to do with MONEY and getting the RIGHT people in line at the FEEDING TROUGH. They will choke and hinder all the little guys and let the Big Money in to suck up ALL the money if possible……the Newest, Worst, and Least Skilled “drivers work for those BIG MONEY fleets and they all pretend they are “SAFE”!!!!!
    What a Charade. Insurance companies LOVE this new mandate…and anything that makes the trucker a ROBOT/SLAVE…..obediant law abiding suck asses is what they feel is “Safe”……we cant even COUNT all the accidents caused by Mega Fleets!!!! They Slaughter thousands every year but are deemed SAFE and COMPLIANT??? What a sick JOKE.

  • g

    This Elog is really bad news for the “little guy” as it Documents undeniably the driver sitting for endless hours at the loading docks….unable to falsify his logs to make up for this “downtime” caused by shippers and receivers…this is economic disaster for alot of small operators….Mega Carriers already have these Elogs…and their “drivers” are used to being POOR and BROKE…..

  • g

    That stupid Elog looks like a contraption a Bus Driver would use…..what a load of crap……

  • Mike Smith

    E-log is a violation of our privacy, a violation of our ‘rights’. The gov needs to spend time & money tracking foreigners, legal & illegal, in our country, taking jobs,driving trucks, driving our wages & rates down, rather than violating our rights as citizens. What we have been & are experiencing is an evil trend here in our country.

  • Mike Smith

    This is why the big guys want this. They want to eliminate experienced competition. They put anybody with a face, inexperience savages in their trucks, and the big guys want as much control over the savages as they can get, IE., trucks governed at 62 mph. Next they will cut there speed down to 55 mph. What next? In the name of safety they could eliminate even MORE accidents if everybody was to drive at 35 mph. The madness has to be stopped.

  • jojo

    I talked with my Congressman’s office.
    Explained that I didn’t leave a train on the tracks or an airplane at the airport and that I spend 300+ 24hr days tied to the truck every year.
    If I can’t turn this ELD thing off then I must be at work so who’s going to pay me for all the time I currently don’t get paid for?
    How am I supposed to use my personal vehicle as any other law abiding citizen would?
    Why is my info going to the Co. I’m leased to instead of coming to me?
    How much am I going to be paid for the info collected from My Truck?
    When will all law abiding citizens be monitored as I will Be?
    Since it’s all about Safety, don’t we need to track and monitor all citizens?
    Drivers, May I Suggest that you call your Congressman’s office and start asking questions.
    Call 202-224-3121 give them your Zip Code and they’ll put you in touch. It only takes a few minutes and it’s simple to do.
    I’ll be calling back again next week to talk with the girls.

  • Mike Smith

    “When will all law abiding citizens be monitored as I will Be?
    Since it’s all about Safety, don’t we need to track and monitor all citizens?”

    How true!!!!!!!!!!! When will the cops be monitored. When will the cops have a monitor put on them to make sure they are not sleeping, or having sex with a hooker, etc., etc..

  • jojo

    I actually had a very nice conversation with a trooper about this.
    I explained that with all of the computers we tax payers have provided them to do their job for them, shouldn’t I expect them to take a pay cut. After all, aren’t we having problems with our Federal, State and Local budgets?
    This officer admitted that he hadn’t thought of it this way.
    Drivers, help these people see things as if they were in your shoes.

  • Sam

    Elog will mean the end to the hot shot business along the gulf coast where many mini floats driver only have one truck and it doubles for work truck and personal truck also. There is really not enough money in the H S business as it is now, but having to buy another truck or car because you cant go to the grocery store at 8:am without logging it then start work at 4;Pm would put most out of business.

  • Cumminsapart

    Why do law enforcement officers need a court order and/or reasonable suspicion of someone violating drug laws/codes, etc. before a tracking device is sneakily put on their vehicle? I did not know that as a professional driver/business owner, I am automatically considered a criminal.

  • jojo

    By the way, the cops are monitored while They Are AT Work.
    Remember, they don’t have Work shifts that can last days, weeks and even months.
    They are not Monitored when they are Not AT Work!
    Again I say, PAY the Co OTR Drivers for all time spent AT WORK!
    There is a price to pay for safety and the Drivers are the only ones paying the price with their Diminished Wages.

  • Ralph

    A quick question here. And please don’t think that I am for this law. I’m not. I am a short haul o/o that never leaves the state. However, due to the cargo I have to have a dot # and am considered by the feds to be interstate. As short haul, I’ve been doing the 12 on-duty status (or less on some days).

    “The mandate will require all drivers now subject to keeping records of duty status to use a logging device.”

    Would this mean that I would not have to have a recorder or that I would, as this statement is written at this time?

  • jerry

    Cost, the owner Operator will have to purchase the Carriers equipment. O/O will not be allowed to use his own e-log. Problem, Markups, the Carrier normally charges a rate higher then the original cost of the equipment. O/O will pay $3500 per year for the equip/e-log use age. Recruiting Dept. speak Versus Operational real time performance; myself, I’ve leased on to a Carrier whom had a surplus of drivers but not a surplus of freight. I had to buy/rent, their e-log equip. only to leave a short time later due to an operating loss in revenue. The O/O will begin a renewed cycle at a different Carrier. Mandated e-logs should NOT mean the O/O is mandated to use the Carriers e-log equipment (with Carriers upcharges for equipment use age) O/O should be allowed to use one e-log for the life of his truck not respective of Carriers preference.

  • norman ott

    I cant see it working for me, some times I will drive for two different outfits on the same day and maybe 2 or three different trucks, will I have to have a paper log when I drive our old 88 white with a mechanical motor?

  • jojo

    I believe it was about a year ago when some school bus Drivers up in Mass. went on strike for a few days because tracking devices had been installed in their buses.

  • jojo

    Logistically, the carriers need drivers on standby in order to cover loads because of these ELD’s. This is so they have Drivers with working hours available at all times.
    They are not paying drivers for their sit around and wait time even though those Drivers are AT Work, Not at Home……Aren’t these Drivers only doing as they are told, Waiting.
    Therefore we have a Driver shortage.
    I’m expecting to be able to buy my own box and have the info sent to me as well as the co. Don’t misunderstand, I am not for these things at all but I have at least 10 more years before I can walk away.
    One thing for sure, I’m shutting my truck down for about a week so I can be at home to Vote this Fall.

  • Scott T Nixon

    I’ll put an e-log in my truck whenever my dispatcher agrees to put a federal government camera in the corner of the room looking over his/her shoulder and watching everything he/she does 24/7.

  • jojo

    As I understand it, yes you will be required to use one. However, if you are running intrastate you should be able to run under that states rules.
    It used to be that if you crossed the states border you then had to follow federal rules for the time you are out of state and for the following 7 days after returning back into your state.
    I’m sure that if FMCSA has it their way, these boxes will only be programed with the federal regs.

  • jojo

    Six years ago I took an 18% pay cut because the co I was with started using these things. I was madd as hell and I tried talking with other Drivers about these boxes. Most didn’t know what I was talking about and the rest said”it’ll never happen”.
    I meet Drivers daily who know nothing about these boxes that they are going to be required to have!
    The gov and the corporate trucking co’s have been working on this for years and they have their strategies in place.
    The drivers using these boxes like them, but they don’t understand that they are not using the final version, the version that is Letter Of The Law. These Drivers aren’t going to shut down because we don’t want these boxes or speed limiters. Hell, if it’s good for them they think it’s good for all of us. This cuts our numbers in half. And by the way, the public see’s no problem with these electronic logs.
    Therefore WE need an issue that ALL drivers can stand behind and the public as well.
    CO OTR Drivers that make less than $174.00 a day for every day they are attached to a truck, do not even make Minimum Wage. If the Drivers would pull their heads out of the sand and realize this (the public I talk to are amazed by this) we might be able to enact some legislation that would ensure us of a living wage while doing our jobs by the book LEGAL.
    Hourly Wage for Co OTR Drivers is the solution!
    We shouldn’t have to break the LAW to feed our families !!!!

  • David S. McQueen

    The OMB delay is simply the WH not wanting to issue a regulation that will have political fallout. The Socialist-Democrat Party is terrified of the mid-term elections in November and is pressuring the WH not to make any more unpopular regulations (through the regulatory agencies). Anne F. is two doors down the hall (figuratively) from Obama in the Oval Office. Although MAP-21 mandated the FMCSA to publish an ELD NPRM, the FMCSA (under Obama’s urging) has ignored the law. That seems to be the hallmark of the Obama regime: ignore those laws you don’t like and make up your own.

  • Ralph

    That’s the way I read the sentence. That ALL commercial trucks that require any kind of logging record (not just the graph style that OTR drivers use) would be required to use these. Depending on the state, that would include a lot of dump trucks as well. That’s a lot of trucks that will have to be fitted. And as for my truck, it’s a mechanical engine so there probably won’t be a plug-and-play recorder for it. I probably will have more invested in order to stay compliant. Thanks.

  • jojo

    With then FMCSA postponing the rule making We don’t know what to expect.
    We can only assume based on the units already in use that they will rely on more information than a GPS can produce thus they are plugged into the ECM.

  • jojo

    Paid by the mile, Governed by the clock. We are and have been Monitored electronically for years.
    NOW, With Time Clocks in every co truck, they know that you are where you are supposed to be doing as you were told, waiting to load/offload or taking a mandatory break etc. There is no excuse for not paying the Co OTR Driver by the Hour.
    I heard the president of the ATA say that he thought the companies were going to have to pay Drivers a salary. How does $800.00 to $1000.00 a week sound Drivers?
    $7.25hr X 24hrs = $174.00 a day = $1218.00 a week. Shouldn’t the new driver with Zero experience be making at least this much?
    Is this an economic disaster or an economic opportunity?

  • Bigwheel

    Mega Carriers use drop trailers

  • RichieC

    If you go to saudi arabia you will make …being away from family…just like driving a truck OTR…a minimum of 100,000 AFTER TAXES.

  • RichieC

    The “DRIVERS USING THESE BOXES” that say they like them have never actualy not used them. To them it just makes making their 700 dollars a week easier with less paperwork. The problem is….700 a week might sound good to a guy that has never made any money…but truth uis…700 a week is coolie wages today. By the way a washington lobbiest makes 7 figures easily to make sure YOU work cheap. This so loads from csx baltimore can be hauled to clorox for 125 dollars and the driver dare not gripe. Lets hope and pray a general strike of good law abiding drivers simply stop…1/2 mile from receivers gate…..with the “just in time delivery” and take a ten hour break. Let that crap rot on the trucks I say!!!! Mabey than the sillyness of what is happening will be relizd…as commerce grinds to a halt…and fees for redilevery are hashed out before delivery takes place. As for firing the independent because he wont lay down and die….we need to immediatly push for a RULE that makes the bourdon transferr to the shipper or freight paying partys hands…for delays and unexpected time outs for any reason. 800 dollar layover charge for any load that goes beyond the alloted time the load was originaly slotted for…and the right to hold, and or send the load to liquidation if perishable and the shipper , paying party, wont submitte. This is very fair considering its their, (via lobbiests), rule causing it. LETS TURN THE TABLE ON THESE ONE WAY PRICKS !!!!!!!! REVOLUTION!!!!!!

  • jojo

    Your thinking and considering alternatives, thats more than most seem to do.
    The liability issues you speak of seem to make sense but I don’t claim to completely grasp the legalities involved.

  • jojo

    Drivers I talked with said $100,000 wasn’t near enough.
    Still Wish I had gone, I’m getting old and I’m expendable.

  • Grayson

    I will not put that crap on my truck…PERIOD!!! Who pays for it ? ME!!! I don’t think so.

  • haller

    In conclusion ,, The people at the DOT don’t know what they are doing but ,,, they are making changes , excellent… I wish I could run my business that way and still get paid every week with a nice retirement package waiting for me when I’m 62… not to mention taking off early on Friday , vacation time , meetings with free breakfasts and lunches .. I would like to know who told the US Congress to go after the AMERICAN TRUCKER ??? Wait a minute ,, BIG BUSINESS doesn’t like workers , Congress doesn’t like workers , Congress likes big business … Maybe I should be still and do as I am told !!

  • dedicated trucker

    E-Logs force drivers to drive sleepy. They won’t take a needed power nap in there 14 hour clock. Look at the accident that happened on the New Jersey turnpike with the Walmart truck and the Comedian Tracey Morgan. That driver had a. E-LOGS. These big carriers that run E-Logs have more accidents than the carriers that use paper logs. The problem is that these big carriers hire drivers with no experience & that’s the biggest problem. These big carriers can’t afford to hire experienced drivers because they pay a poor wage. There should be mandatory pay for a drivers time in the truck. Truckers are very under paid for there time away from home. How about Congress do something about that?

  • Ted Delisi

    We are seeing companies getting ready to make the change. It is a matter of time. Small and Big alike. We are using mobile-logix.com for logs, there are many to choose from. And cheap.

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