E-logs, driver database, vehicle reports on FMCSA’s agenda

| July 24, 2013

eobr electronic logAn electronic onboard recorder (aka electronic logging devices) rule is still slated to be proposed in November, says the Department of Transportation in its semiannual status report, released this week.

The DOT says in its report that requiring e-logs would “improve compliance with the hours of service rules and thereby decrease the risk of fatigue-related crashes attributable to non-compliance…”

Echoing former issuances from the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration, the report says the rule has to establish four basic items: (1) standards for EOBR devices themselves, (2) the requirement that all drivers use them (3) requirements of supporting hours of service documents and (4) safeguards to ensure fleets and enforcement officials can’t use EOBRs to harass drivers.

Also in the DOT’s semi-annual report is a bit about the status of the CDL drug and alcohol clearinghouse — a database that would store all failed or refused drug and alcohol tests for CDL holders. The rule is expected to be proposed sometime this month and would not only establish the database but require carriers to submit positive test results to FMCSA.

Carriers would have the ability to with written consent from a driver be able to access the clearinghouse to check if a driver applicant’s name was listed. The MAP-21 highway funding law passed last year requires the clearinghouse be in place by October of next year.

Last in the DOT’s report regarding trucking regulations was an update on the driver-vehicle inspection reports. The agency wants to propose a rule rescinding the requirement that drivers who have found no vehicle defects during an inspection submit and keep record of said inspection. DOT expects a proposed rule in September.

  • governmentcontrolsucks

    I will put EOBR in my trucks when they fund the cost of having them and show me justification for having them in my trucks

  • grumpy

    No you will put them in your trucks or get out of the business. Just ask Obama.

  • wildstealth

    would be great if I drove over the road. Have fun reading it with dropping 20 loads a day with my belly dump.

  • Jimmy the Greek

    Tell me somthing , EOBR thing is so good why would we need supporting documents ?

  • almost ashamed to be a citizen

    What is this country going to do when nobody wants to drive loads anymore? Why not teach non-truckers how to be respectable to the trucks? Oh wait, that might save lives. Most people in US are too stupid to realize how our gov’t is turning into communists, they just keep going along with these bad ideals of control. Whose watching them (gov’t) while they watch us. Whatever happened to checks- and- balances?

  • Bill

    I know for a fact that companies using EOBR’s counsel drivers on how to get around them, and every company gets to program their own parameters on what, how and when it is recorded. It’s pointless….

  • No Reform

    The AGENDA of FMCSA is more Clear if you read Craigslist classifieds today Fri 7-26 San Diego, Cal. for help wanted
    under TRANSPORT. The ad asks for “Choferes” 48 Statos??
    2005 tractor….the ad is ALL in Spanish.

  • No Reform

    The replacement for complainers is pouring over the fences along the border every day and BREEDING.
    This industry is like the Contruction Trades. Obediant Immigrunts will do these menial jobs…..best to hunt for a new career….this one is Toast. Get a Clue.

  • No Reform

    Trucking has become a total LOSER. May as well face the facts and spend more time searching out an Alternative to driving a truck. Big Money is shaping the industry for their benefit….not the worker.

  • Ken Nilsen

    EOBR. One of the things that most drivers never even think about is the fact that you may already have one and you are paying for it. In the event you are in a major accident, at fault or not, your smartphone records can be used as evidence to either support you or accuse you. The fact is we can continue to fight the issue or we can work with carriers and customers to see to it that what we get paid is equal to the work we do.

    The devices are coming, the best thing you can do is position yourself to make the best of it. If it is a really, horrible, terrible thing that you simply cannot deal with then the best thing to do is park your truck today. Instead of spending thousands on chrome, big radios, 3 buffets a day, and doing 80 mph in the left lane perhaps you should get yourself in a good financial position so that when you have to have one, then a cut in pay will not hurt you.

    I have been working the last 5 years to prepare myself for what is coming. I have a truck that will be paid for in 4 more months. I have reduced the majority of my debt. I run my truck efficiently, maintain it well. While I have not seen an increase in base pay I have seen an increase in profit and that is what it is all about. EOBR’s will result in a 15-20 percent gross reduction for me. However, at the end of this year I will have reduced my expenses by 25 percent thereby giving myself a pay raise. Once you understand this is a business and not a job you will start to figure these things out.

  • outofbusiness

    Grumpy…right on brother

  • 2wildT

    With respect Bill, you should be careful when making an every company type statement. I’ve had an EOBR in my truck from new and I don’t have any issues with it or my company and the way we do business with them. Oh and no, there was no cheating training what so ever. If I so no, it’s backed by our safety department, the way it should be. Like it or not these things are coming folks, FMCSA wants them in all trucks, and sooner or later they will be……plain and simple.

  • Bill

    I was careful, I do know companies that do this, and ALL companies independently set parameters for their eobr’s. So it remains pointless….and frankly all the drivers that are content with being told what, when and how to run are demonstrably mindless and should make everyone nervous on the road.

  • Bill

    I drive at 60, cook and eat in the truck and am not a slave to chrome preferring to sleep not polish.
    You seem content to give up 80% of your hard work cutting expenses and call it a win. It isn’t. Every truck should stop everywhere and then we would get some justice….I know, it won’t happen with everyone willing to settle for less and not take any real risk for their future.

  • disqus_w9c6NF37lV

    Anybody notice how adjusting driver pay to compensate for the income loss EOBRs create is not addressed? My friend went on them and lost about $500.00 per month.

  • Shawn L Hubbard

    So Bill, you don’t follow HOS rules? You said drivers who are content with following these rules are mindless, so then drivers who break the rules are intelligent? I dont get your logic. Also, I have been using EOBRs for about 5 months, have had no problems using them, and have never been counseled on how to break the rules.

  • Bill

    LOL…I never said I didn’t run HOS rules nor did I say ALL companies counsel how to evade eobr’s.
    I ran when there was no 14 hour rule, when you really had to know the HOS to stay legal and didn’t have to run illegal cause you could stop when tired and run when safe, and still make your destination on time.
    …and yeah, if someone could break the HOS rules and never get caught AND do it safely, I think they are real smart!…but this day and age it’s unlikely.
    We used to have to really think, now the industry is over run by, yes, lazy and mindless drivers(I use that term loosely) CONTENT to let a box and equally mindless dispatchers run each minute of their lives.

  • Bill

    …and they won’t. Drivers will have to stay out longer, sitting making no money on their 50+ hour resets while the company hires another driver to work for less money as well to fill the gap. Families will be stressed to the max, more will break up, etc… This will continue in a viscous cycle until something catastrophic takes place to high light the problem.

  • Magicokie

    I’ve had a OBC in my truck since 2000, and like everything else in this industry, it helps some times and hurts you some times. The OBC’s we had where touch screen and we where never schooled on how to cheat on them, and don’t think you could have, or I never could figure out how, because at times I wish I could have. (example) You have bad weather, it slowes you down and your getting behind and you drove your 10 hrs and worked delivering , say four hours and you log out after post trip at 7pm. They wanted you back and logging in at 3:01 am. I logged in 1 minute to soon one time and called dispatch to ask how to correct it, because it was showing me having a hours of service violation and the dam thing was beeping at me, and they had no answers, so I run all day showing being in hours of service violation. Now what they did with there magic computers in the office, was a totally different story, that I often questioned, but never got a answer too.

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  • k100

    i’m just trying to get more info on the pros and cons of e-logs and when we all will have to comply I think it’s just more control they talk about driver fatigue and running over hours the biggest problem is with the shippers and receivers nothing is ever ready to load or unload

  • kyle

    What else would you expect from this gangster goverment?

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  • don

    I guess you dont knowabout the studie j j keller did .the truck wrecks are gooing back up because of Ebors so thats ok aslong as its not some one you love that gets heart or god forbed killed.

  • don

    J j keller did astudy ,showed ebors are causing wrecks in big truck togo up. So we put them in truck in the name of safty I dont know what kind of math yall do but that just want add up any way I do it.

  • don

    Couldnt say it better my self

  • JackmeOFF

    I blame the apes

  • JackmeOFF

    no good ni66er in the white house

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