Readers say no to speed governing, less equivocal on a national speed limit

| August 18, 2014

Overdrive shared the above ATA graphic on August 6 on its Facebook page. ATA had published it with this note: "A reminder: On our highways, speed kills. That's why ATA is pushing for a national speed limit of 65 mph and for all trucks to be electronically governed to prevent speeding." The speed limiter rule that FMCSA is pursuing made news recently for an acceleration in the timetable for its release, estimated currently for later this year.

Overdrive shared the above ATA graphic on August 6 on its Facebook page. ATA had published it with this note: “A reminder: On our highways, speed kills. That’s why ATA is pushing for a national speed limit of 65 mph and for all trucks to be electronically governed to prevent speeding.” The speed limiter rule that FMCSA is pursuing made news recently for an acceleration in the timetable for its release, estimated currently for later this year.

Several weeks back, following the American Trucking Associations’ sharing of the image at right via its Facebook page, Overdrive asked the above poll question to its readers. As results show, very little support exists among owner-operators for mandatory speed governing/limiting of trucks, but a return to a national approach to maximum speed garners a measure of support.

The American Trucking Associations’ support of a speed limiters (or governors) mandate for all new heavy-duty Class 8 trucks goes back many years now to Road Safe America founder and current Motor Carrier Safety Advisory Committee Chairman Stephen Owings’ 2006 petition, mirrored by ATA’s own, to NHTSA to limit new-truck speeds to 68 miles per hour. In years since, there has been more than a little talk of the rule potentially requiring retrofit of many existing vehicles with speed governors as well — Road Safe America and ATA both now advocate all 1992 and later Class 7 and 8 trucks be required to govern speed at 65 mph, and the Associations likewise support a national 65-mph speed limit — for all vehicles. 

Reporting within the last year has cited NHTSA officials as saying the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration was brought into the speed limiter rulemaking process in order that older vehicles could be included in the rulemaking on a mandate for limited speed.

Owner-operator Joey Slaughter, commenting via the Overdrive’s Trucking Pro LinkedIn group on the speed-governor rule currently expected for proposal later this year, called the speed-limiter mandate a “solution in search of problem…. In my observations, excessive speed for trucks is not a problem at all. Most trucks that aren’t governed are operated by owner-operators like myself who buy their own fuel. And we are some of the slowest drivers.”

Owner-operator Blair Blakely, via the same venue, noted he believed the rule was less about safety than about a kind of leveling of the playing field by eliminating what competitive advantage might come from speeds above 65. “The ATA and you and I operate at different ends of the same industry. They are in favor of anything to increase profits of their members and one way to increase profits is to eliminate competition, and we are the competition.” 

When the subject of a national speed limit is divorced from the mandate for governors, however, nearly a third of Overdrive readers appear to support the measure, provided it will slow down many of the auto drivers around them. Clinton Seals called out the 80 mph speed limit on some highways out west for “creating a lot of potential for major accidents, especially with all of those negligent text/handheld device users that are a danger to our highways while they are driving at those speeds.”

Seals’ support for a 65-mph-truck/70-mph-auto split national speed limit, however, drew the ire of others, who echo the thoughts of many over the years on the unsafe nature of split speeds, given they increase interactions in close quarters between autos and trucks. But Seals hammered home another point that nonetheless calls into question the efficacy of a national speed limit, without adequate enforcement: “We all know that most of the motoring public will still go over these limits,” Seals wrote, “so let our Highway Patrol do their work.”

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Perhaps summing up the overall No vote of the majority in the poll, one commenter noted that today’s state-to-state approach to speed limits reflected the reality that safe “speed is relative to the traffic and road conditions — 65mph, for example, is way too fast in crowded interstate conditions in inclement weather, but out on the open roads of Montana or Texas with no other vehicle in sight, it is not. In that second example, traffic and road conditions come in second to vehicle condition. Are the truck’s tires properly inflated, not cut or dry-rotted? Brand-new radials carrying their designed loading are safe to take up to their designed speed.

“In that special open road situation with no traffic on a clear day, a truck not overloaded with tires properly inflated in good condition could handle the rated top end speed of that tire — 80mph, 100mph, 120mph. But that comes with a waiver — a waiver and warning of heat buildup due to high speed, sidewall flex, and high road temps — all of which lead to an overheated tire that is likely to separate.”

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The reader went on to share an anecdote of a friend who hit 110 mph on a barren road in a Peterbilt many years ago and “lived to tell about it.” Neither here nor there, however, he said, returning to the central point: “Speed is relative. I am more worried about traffic congestion, poorly maintained road surfaces and bad weather.”

No amount of speed regulation is going to change those three factors, and in the first case, many believe, governing truck speed may exacerbate the effect.

  • Sedric

    No that would be so bad

  • sthomas1957

    When are we going to stop allowing ATA to control the agenda on trucking issues? The ATA is made up of the biggest of the carriers and their agenda reflects what is best for them only. Per safety, remember that a lot of ATA members opposed the mandatory 30-minute rest break. Anyone — anyone — who has a problem allowing his or her drivers to take a break at least once every eight hours should not even be allowed in the room to talk about safety.
    This isn’t about safety, but about what’s best for the big carriers. Of course they don’t want their drivers driving too fast because they hire too many inexperienced drivers in their fleets who are a danger to public safety if they drive too fast. So they want to slow everyone else down, even if it means forcing drivers to go below the posted speed limits (which, presumably, the states have already deemed to be a safe speed, otherwise they wouldn’t have it posted at that speed limit in the first place).

  • sthomas1957

    I dispute your interpretation of a poll in which only 33% of respondents are in favor of some form of a national speed limit as something that constitutes support for it. 66% still oppose any limit at all, which is an overwhelming rout in any forum.

  • West88

    Maybe all the politicians and government should all come out and drive our trucks for us? Since they are all so smart. Maybe they can drive better than running this country. This is the best part….they’re telling grown men and women how fast to drive, how long to drive, when to take a break, where to sleep and when to get out of our bed. This is just unbelievable!!! Is this America? May they should hire children, they seem to take order pretty good and believe everything they say. This country starting to make me sick.

  • FoxStar

    I’m pretty sure a mandate on governors usurps state rights? The states determine the limits.

    States have been slowly raising them, just to have the Feds remote turn down the speed of all trucks? That can’t be legal.

  • Barney

    Yes, lets put the politicians in a truck, after they pass all the tests and properly licensed and trained for a “sufficient” amount of time. Then lets see how well they do. You are right, they sure as heck can’t run the country.

  • Leadfoot

    If the speed limiter mandate goes in effect, I will simply run a truck pre 1990. Less bullshit and maintenance costs anyway

  • jim stewart

    Notice the ATA graphic has an auto that’s crashed into the back of a semi. With speed control devices they may wish to add a couple dozen more autos involved in that same rear end collision. That’s what the bottle necked roadways are going to look like with impatient autos jammed up behind slow moving trucks. We’ll not be able safely to pass each other any longer. It will be a new era in “road rage.” Imagine dozens of trucks side by side proceeding the same speed for twenty miles at a stretch? How about pulling out on a two lane to pass and be held there by the idiot next to you. Some of the ATA’s biggest supporters of this legislation hire the worst drivers. They feel they have no choice other than this dangerous type maneuver to slow those trucks down with their own form of back seat control over employees. In the meantime they desperately want the rest of us not to have any competitive advantage over them because we drive a few miles faster than their company owned trucks. It’s amazing how such a small group of management people with little to no hands on experience have become so powerful that they actually determine what’s best for the majority of us in the entire trucking industry.. Maybe scary would be a better word!

  • David Schroeder

    This is why I don’t drive anymore after 20 years maybe they ought to work for the wages they expect you to

  • kc

    Let’s make there cars and suv’s go 65 to 68 mph and see how they like it

  • James

    When Nevada had no speed limit,there WERE a lot of accidents,almost ALL of ‘em being tourists who had no experience at driving down the highway at 75,80 or 90 miles per hour. It’s easy for even these people to keep it on the road on the straight stretches,but it got scary and deadly when they got to the first actual turn and lost control. Among Nevada residents,who had been driving at the speed THEY felt good with,substantially fewer accidents and fatalities. Conversely,when the 55 began,accidents increased seriously,and fatalities stayed about the same. (NHTSA,however,saw this as a DECREASE in fatalities,through their “magic” math…) The NHP almost could have used a form letter for their accident reports,”____ went off the highway near the ___ mile marker,regained the roadway,but over-corrected and went off the highway again and overturned in the median.”
    Because of this,I’ve never been in favor of speed limits. Aside from the safety “issue”,they serve little purpose beyond that of a Revenue gathering tool for State Governments.Nothing that happens at 90 mph is notably different at 68 mph. If a truck wrecks at 68 mph,or at 90. The driver’s just as busted up,the truck’s just as wrecked,the cargo’s just as lost,only difference is it happens 2 States before it might have with an open speed limit,IF it happened. Though it ISN’T supposed to make any difference,when I’m driving at 90,I’m LOTS more aware,attentive to my driving than at 55 or 65,and I’m MUCH more likely to stop and sleep when I get tired.
    Just my 2 cents worth

  • Deez Nuts

    B model Macks for the win!

  • USMC 69-75

    Added to that Jim, the fact that back in the 80′s when we dealt with this B/S, there wasn’t any texting or cell phones as distractions, but still a lot of these “run unders”. Now compile that with these new distractions? Nothing but a disaster and plenty of deaths, all being caused “OF COURSE” by the truck driver……. going to slow, thanks to progressive “Big Government” Don’t like the change, thank a progressive. Yes I believe progress is a good thing, progressive government is NOT!

  • USMC 69-75

    James, That’s all well and good, I agree with most of what you say. But for your safety as well as ours, your truck isn’t built and designed for excessive speed over 70. Your an accident looking for a place to happen after that. Truck tires alone are only safety rated at 70 for any extended period of time.
    Along with being attentive at higher speeds, you also need a lot of “Common Sense”

  • pupeperson

    Most truck tires are rated for 75 mph at rated load and pressure. The only truck tires of which I am aware that are rated for a higher speed than 75 are full size 11/24.5 major brand radials that I believe are rated for 80mph.

  • Andr’e

    You are so correct west I’m thinking seriously about selling my truck, trucking has gone to $hit now too over regulated and under paid…..

  • James

    That’s true. Along with attentiveness and common sense,it takes more money for fuel,tires,brakes,etc. The part of my comment about driving at 90 mph was mainly to make a point. My truck powers out at about 78 empty,it’s been years since I had a truck that could reach 90. I was saying that I tend to be more focussed at higher speeds,
    What part of a truck isn’t designed for 80 mph,aside from the brakes (That argument’s inevitable whenever truck safety comes up.) Out here,the only trucks I see that consistently run under 70-75 are those that are restricted from any higher speed by their governors. Maybe you’re not familiar with the term “overkill factor”. The tires being rated at 75 or 80 mph is a good example. Posting that max. safe speed is primarily a CYA for the manufacturer,and is what they “officially” consider a typical safe speed,but physically it’s not necessarily carved in stone. In my opinion, if a driver doesn’t overload his tires,keeps the pressures where they need to be,takes it easy on bad surfaces and the tires are in good shape to begin with,there’s little reason they can’t handle 10-20 mph higher road speed. However the higher speed is a gamble if you’re playing the warranty game,because there is always the possibility of a tire failing,and if it is known you were exceeding the speed on the sidewall,you’ll probably be buying the replacement at full retail. I’ve never had one fly apart,but that doesn’t mean it can’t happen.
    The point I wanted to make,though,is that a National speed limit of 65 would cause more problems than it’d solve. (In the article,that limit is inferred for ALL vehicles,not just trucks.) It’s a money maker for the State Government in Citations and for the Feds,fining the States for non-compliance,and it’s more of Big Government “protecting” people from themselves,and the PEOPLE get to PAY ‘em for it..
    Incidentally,with Nevada’s “open speed limit” basically you could drive as fast as you felt was safe,but if you DID crash because of excessive speed,careless driving,reckless driving or too fast for conditions (their favorite one-easy to prove in Court) as determined by the investigating officer,(and lived) there were SERIOUS repercussions,and you’d be paying for a long time for it,so aside from the actual wreck,that freedom to drive fast wasn’t without its cost.

  • bigred

    What we see now from slower trucks is this leapfrogging where it can take forever to get by them. One will jump out and slow traffic for the one he is following and this can go on and on…If this speed limit deal is put on us you can expect to see bumper to bumper trucks in both lanes. When one wrecks, all will pile in as these “tailgaters” will not be able to stop while texting, talking on phones, watching TV, watching that GPS in their face, playing with computers and whatever else they do, besides paying attention

  • seenmuch

    This about the dumbest idea I have read suggested in the last 4 decades! Political limits based on a idea not on science like a arbitrary maximum of 65 would be, would never be obeyed by the vast majority of drivers. All posting this limit would do is make law breakers out of all that share the road. And it would lead again to traffic flowing at many different speeds making travel less safe for us ALL!!!!

    Dumb idea, dumb idea, dumb idea, dumb idea, about the dumbest idea I have heard in years!

    Leave this stupid idea of a political arbitrary maximums that in no way matches the safe design speed of our freeway system like 65 would be on our freeway network designed to be comfortable and safe @ 75-80 in the trash bin of history where it belongs!!!!!!!

  • seenmuch

    since they no longer seem to speak for us we should take their voice away from them, This stupid idea of more speed limiting is the insurance industry talking! NO one of us in the trucking industry would even suggest such a ignorant idea as this!

  • David S. McQueen

    The stupid 55 MPH was a federal limit imposed on the states by the feds threatening to withhold federal highway funds if the states didn’t comply and lower their max speed limit to 55 MPH. It was government coercion at its finest. Looks like we’re going the same route again. Thanks, Marxists!

  • David S. McQueen

    It’s the state and local governments, too. The lower the speed limit, the more tickets (and more revenue). Look, if it was REALLY about safety, there would have been a federal law passed years ago outlawing any vehicle manufacturer who produced a car/truck that could go faster than 40 MPH. Instead, we have cars that can go in excess of 100 MPH but no speed limits that even approach that.

  • David S. McQueen

    The speed limit is about governmental control and revenue. As the article points out, driving down a straight highway at 70 – 75 MPH is not the problem. The problem occurs when another factor enters the picture (weather, road conditions, obstacles, another vehicle, pot holes, impaired driver, etc.). Those are real issues that can be addressed. But, no, the simple-minded fools who run our lives must control the human being first and last. Welcome to authoritarian government, leftists. I hope you enjoy your ride (because you asked for it).

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  • ExplEngineer

    I do not see the problems with split speed limits, nor with speed limiters. It is a simple understanding of physics to know that an automobile is both more maneuverable, as well as able to stop, even from 80+mph than an 18-wheeler can from 65mph. it appears to me that the best solutions would be that of permitting states to regulate speed limits at the upper end for automobiles, and for their to be a nationwide uniform speed limit for Commercial Vehicles of 65mph during daylight hours, and 60 mph during the hours of darkness, and a Minimum Speed requirement of 55mph for all vehicles traveling on Interstate Higways. This should be coupled with a Lane Restriction to the right lane for all Class VII & VIII Commercial Vehicles should resolve virtually all conflicts that would occur between automobile traffic and commercial vehicles, while still permitting the orderly flow of traffic for all vehicles on the road by closing the differential speeds at both the minimum, and maximum limits for commercial vehicles and eliminating most, if not all need for trucks to pass each other. It could be designed with a provision that would prohibit the issuance of a citation for the passing truck if there were no automobile traffic some specified distance such as a “half-mile” so as to permit passing the minimum speed vehicles when it can be done without creating a speed conflict between automobiles and commercial vehicles. I simply cannot understand all of this “invented conflict” as to speed limits, electronic logbooks, inspections, etc. Operators, owner or fleet who operate legally should have no worries, and it would facilitate the removal of unsafe drivers from the road, with a concomitant decrease in animosity between automobile drivers and commercial vehicle operators. We already use GPS tracking, and electronic monitoring and control of our Hazardous Carrier trucks and subscribe to a private service to monitor operations on the highways to ensure that there are no incidents where we do not have the capability to defend our operators against extra-legal operations and or unwarranted citations, and we do so aggressively. This benefits us all as we have gained substantial insurance savings, an excellent safety record, and our drivers recognize the fact that if they are improperly charged with a violation we will have the evidence, and an attorney to fight in their behalf in court. The also know the rules up front, and that given the nature of what they are transporting for us there is no latitude as far as illegal, or unsafe driving. Finally, we need to return to the days of a dedicated Commercial Vehicle Law Enforcement (CVE) program rather than the newly popular merging of these officers into the State Police or Highway Patrol. CVE officers understood trucks, knew the laws pertaining to commercial vehicle operations (CVOps), and if their authority were to be limited to CVOpns, Impaired Driver and felony crimes only that would free up the other troopers for general jurisdiction enforcement. No more delays while a state trooper has to go back to the cruiser to check a statute, citations issued in error, etc. This is one case where “Separate but Equal” is a positive practice for all involved in maintaining safety on our highways.

  • guest

    These Safety Cops will enact whatever they want….they dont care what any trucker wants or thinks…the Master Plan is already in Motion…al truckers will be obediant Monitored, Filmed, Robots….lol

  • guest

    No doubt about it…trucking has gone to CRAP.

  • guest

    It will be funny…nobody can pass anybody else….all trucks going the same speed??? Got ta be fun…lol

  • guest

    It takes one mega fleet truck about 15minutes to pass another one with the Governor on it….all trucks need this???

  • ExplEngineer

    Perhaps, but not for long. Look what has happened in CA with emissions regulations, phases, etc. You will run a conforming truck or you won’t run at all as there will be a Federal funding incentive to revoke authorities, and further regulate older trucks to the point where it will no longer be feasible, even if it were to remain possible, to operate a truck without a speed limiting device. And, when all else fails, it will only take a small modification to cause that speed limiter to send a signal on a frequency restricted to law enforcement and homeland security so that they can stop and inspect your non-signal emitting truck every 100 mi. or so until you throw in the town and conform.

  • ExplEngineer

    All this can readily be resolved by installing some version of the same orange “black box” recorders used in aircraft into trucks, which along with in-cab cameras, sending signals that can be monitored by law enforcement as well as anyone else with proper equipment and dash cams, all of which will serve to produce a surplus of driver-trainees from the large number of unemployed lawyers as the question of liability in accidents, unpredictable events, etc. shrinks to zero, and arbitrators will simply watch the films (no worry about equipment failures or damage, there will be a backup sent by SatCom to an off-site recorder) just as the NTSB does now, and issue rulings.At least there will no longer be any reason to worry if the accident investigator will find the 2nd, 3rd, etc. logbook in the wreck.

  • ExplEngineer

    Or, perhaps they an return most, if not all interstate cargo to the railroads and only allow short haul trucks from the RR terminals to end users. Just as sea traffic terminals unload containers to be placed on trailers or rail cars, railroads could load their cargo containers on to trucks. Cut out paying by the mile, and the incentive to speed, overdrive safety regulations, etc. ceases and safety improves as there is no longer the incompatible size differentials in vehicles on the roadways.

  • bates

    I take it you’ve never heard of an idea called “Federalism”

  • J.L.

    Dash cams, black boxes, speed restrictions, shortened work weeks, mandatory breaks, D.O.T harassment, unpaid shipper /receiver delays, uncompensated breakdowns, electronic logs, unpaid customer service and mechanical duties, non-exsistant cost of living adjustments, stricter medical requirements and the loss of family and social life. This is the direction the trucking industry has gone in just 15 years, where will we be 15 years from now?

  • Edwy Hollis

    THE ISSUE SEED , i have been out here a long time i have seen some bad ones out here . go down a long grade ,going around a curve , taking the off ramp too fast . you only do it one time if u live to tell tale . the posting they give u is 4 cars . THE BIG COMPANIES like swift , prime , just to say a couple would love the limit on speed . they only go 62-65 in their trucks already . J.B HUNT tried this an could not keep drivers . M.P.H. average means $$$$ to company drivers . YOU limit their speed u cut their pay check . .25 x 50 mph = $$ . now if u have a higher average it means more $$$ to the driver and his / her family . we are out here to make $$$$ , where not out here on a holiday . the more money u make the less u are under the big company’s control . u can go home for a few days and still pay your bills . if have less money the more u have to work and keep their truck rolling . And they are happier because their making even more $$$$ YOUR RIGHT WHERE THEY WANT U . MAKING THE COMPANY $$$$ . They don’t care about your home life u belong to them . they can go home at night knowing that u need the $$$ and will keep on working . AND THE S.O.B. IS SMILING ABOUT IT

  • seenmuch

    I’m sorry but this one size fits all idea really doesn’t fit across the US. I often wander if someone who rights this kind of non-sense has ever been out of their office???? Many freeways across the US can safely and do handle all traffic today traveling 75-80 mph!

  • seenmuch

    There are places like Kansas, eastern Colorado, the Dakotas, Utah, Texas, in areas with light traffic, long site distances and straight highways where 75-80 is a safe speed for all traffic. Restricting trucks here in these areas to 65 would be stupid and not accomplish a thing related to safety!

    And on coming into a situation at high speed and crashing, it is up to us the drivers to head warnings of curves, to keep speed under control while coming down grades!. And when weather is a issue we need to be the one responsible enough to cut our speed to a safe point for conditions!

    Using any of these situations as an excuse to limit all speed again is just silly!

  • Helmethead

    Simple Economics and Sense tells me you don’t have a clue what it takes to operate a Trucking Company

  • Deadeyetrucker

    I’m really not sure as to what you are speaking of, and to whom the implications of your statement relates to. This industry does not pay well enough to,or for an individual to run more than one log book. Furthermore, for those of us that do or would push time, not speaking from experience, but most of those individuals know when to take a break.
    As for cameras and satcom links, alot of us still believe we are free, and wish to stay that way. I for one say enough of the government intrusion, i can do my work just fine with nobody watching over my shoulder…. and legally mind you. I and many others of my ilk will exist, and will most likely survive for years to come. If i wanted a leash… i’d go to a dungeon.

  • guest

    Armies of “truckers” all governed at 62 mph is what the “master plan” calls for Obediant Slaves…..lol

  • http://batman-news.com Magilla

    You must be an attorney for the railroad , so you must know that the Constitution says the Federal Government can not restrict my movement , so if someone like you sets a speed limit on ALL TRUCKS then you are going to be very upset when my 65.25 mph truck ( you know there will be some as all things are not realy equal ) pulls out into the left lane to pass the 65 mph truck cuase if I click my cruise control down one then I’m only going 64.25 and I ain’t a gona like that cuase according to me I’m just as important as you and I knowing me ain’t a gona stay in the right lane and you in your 4 wheeler are a gona be pissed as it takes me 10 mile to pass . Government is only for persons that can’t handle thier every day lives and need someone to tell them when to eat , sleep and wakeup , so all progressive leftis that can’t think on thier own should be happy in Russia , China , North Korea , Cuba , Iran or any other country that is Progressive LEFTIS COMMUNIST . Have a nice day .

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  • ExplEngineer

    Clearly you have failed to master the intricacies of the Interstate Commerce Clause of our Constitution. Hopefully, you skills in maneuvering your truck exceed your limited reading compression skills as trying o explain even the simplest of legal, & Constitutional concepts is truly an exercise in futility. Of course, if we could return commercial vehicle enforcement to the specialists rather than the general duty Troopers I suspect our disagreement would surely end as your hyper-aggressive attitude toward law enforcement officers would surely result in both the revocation of your CDL for excessive points, & perhaps even your incarceration for your resistance to lawful authority. If you like, i’ll watch for your whining posting advising us of same, & send you a then current fee schedule for my services.

  • dontcare

    That would cause a lot of lose in jobs that wouldn’t be made up by more job’s in railroading because 1 train can do the work of a hundred trucks just at a much slower rate hence why we have Orr trucks

  • dontcare

    Or say fuck it run an illegal truck and watch the blues ‘n twos line up behind you till you reach your destination to just to prove the point that you aren’t going to lay down and do what they tell you……. ain’t like they could stop you safely while moving and you would then have a police escort yeah it will puss off a lot of people but in the end at least you stood up for your rights as an american to own what you want to own not what big brother told you to own

  • ExplEngineer

    #1: There is far too much emphasis on speed ILO planning & consolidation. With advanced IT capacity logistics mgt can supercede any purported speed advantage that you claim. #2: Trucks, trains, etc. exist not because they provide jobs, which incidentally are not free, we all subsidize the superfluous employment. As a matter of fact, perhaps if we reduced the total number of drivers ny ridding the highways of those exceptions who are “Road Bullies”, disregard the rules & statutes, suffer from chronic road rage, misuse pharmaceuticals ILO required rest/O.D. Periods of time, etc. perhaps the respect for, & the reputation of the professional drivers may have positive results for the remainder of the the operators on the highway in return for this”new perception.

  • dontcare

    Putting cameras in trucks just allows for more scrutiny on the drivers ie: driver t-bones a car that backed out of a hidden drive way now even if the driver did everything to the book but seemed in a panic like one would wham about to get in a crash that could be cause for someone to say they weren’t paying attention or weren’t in control how ever if the driver had a blank expression like he said fuck it I’m going to hit them no matter what now its intentional or again not paying attention. …. lawyers are lying ass holes and will do what ever to win a make someone pay something in the end

  • RichieC

    This is absurd…any truck driver with stories of doing 100 MPH is simply full of crap…the trucks shake…the tires explode…and its simply beyond the trucks design. It doesnt matter if the truck is brand new..new tires…new equipment…and sirus xm trucker channel blaring….its simply not done. This is a rule in response to a tall tale……..the result…the steering wheel holders will be limited to 60 mph….so they can hanfle their truck…without the need for skill. When our fleet in germany was limited to 50 mph……yes 50 mph….. we still had accedents…mostly fall asleep accidents and accidents from gross lack of skill.. We still had roll overs on ramps…at 40 mph.

  • RichieC

    Ill translate EXPLENGINER SAYS….”FIRE THE DRIVER WHO I FEEL CUT ME OFF THE OTHER DAY…AND IT WILL ALL BE OK”

  • RichieC

    According to the ATA the problem is very clear……… Filthy sterering wheel holders doing 190 mph (according to their graphic…in reverse…are backing over the poor (texting) automobiles. OR…..is the graphic representivitive of the ATA’s baffonery. The graphic should follow this argument along with the ata’s demand for speed limiters…forever.

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